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#3448 - 09/03/10 05:59 PM Latest offering from G&E
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Truely spectacular.
Follow link to see more detail. It will be interesting what feed back it gets on the European forums were this rifle can probably be seen on international circut.

http://www.gruenelshop.ch/ac_home.php?language=en&sid=Object&lay=1&content=11




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#3449 - 09/03/10 10:55 PM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Environs]
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Yesssss Environs,
I also wanted to report the news, in a few days, the rifle will be presented to the IWA in Germany

Download PDF ....Flyer RACER Linear

I'd like to know what you think about new G & E...........



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#3450 - 10/03/10 10:20 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Massimo - Max]
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Perhaps this is V Dubs replacement for his FWB???????
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#3451 - 10/03/10 11:02 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: RNY]
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so Environs changes his wreck

Instead I bought the Bleiker !!! lol


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#3452 - 10/03/10 03:39 PM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Massimo - Max]
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It is a very smart looking bit of machinary. I guess only time will tell the accuarcy gains (if any) from the action design. As only have those few pic's and very little write description, my only comments would be that the sight track is quite high above the bore, that would suit some shooter. Also the trigger and forestock both look look quite low in relation to the bore.
Would really like more detail about the action.

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#3453 - 10/03/10 08:41 PM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Environs]
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Yes Environs,
I know that the G. & E. works all the parts with high technology and ISO-certified but is very difficult to judge this new action.
The bottom is very flat and gives a good support on the stock, should not need bedding.The barrel is locked with screws and then, probably, you should be able to adjust the Headspace.
I assume that will mount a Lilja barrel with or Border chambered ad hoc for Tenex or R50.
The Bolt resembles Bleiker, short and compact in order to load the cartridge without moving the right elbow, 12.00 puller and fire-pin 6.00 (the ignition of the primer 6.00 o'clock is best) . The insertion of the cartridge in the chamber seem more complicated than in tradifionali Rifles and top-loading seems to me a bullshit .
Sight-track as you so rightly pointed out is already a good height without having to put shims often unstable.
The thing that puzzles me is the block around the bolt that runs on track lower and upper to open and close the chamber and and the amount of pieces you see the mechanism that drives the bolt. I looked at the mechanism of the bolt but it seems cumbersome and too many pieces, resembles Bleiker, but I have some doubts .....mmm.....that piece around the bolt which then needs to move and close .... and should slide forward and back ...manufacturers are very good but the tolerances between pieces that will endure?

My current Rating ...... Bleiker has already tested and reliable, and more "traditional ".... The G. & E. could be "revolutionary" but has yet to walk few years before run .... RACER Flyer Linear is certainly very aesthetic and appealing .....but do not buy a gun just for this






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#3454 - 11/03/10 08:38 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Environs]
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What do you recommend Environs .... I book Bleiker or I wait a couple of years??
mmmm ..... better to wait ........ a voice that turns.... Anschutz is producing a new rifle ......2010 ??....2011 ??

Ssssssssssssssssst not tell anyone !!!!!






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#3470 - 13/03/10 02:21 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Massimo - Max]
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Massimo, if you follow the link above and go to the last page(page 7 (?), before the picture of the factory), you will note that it states 'screwed barrel'.
The picture from underneath the action shows the bolts holding the action parts onto the base-plate, like the Bleiker, not clamping the barrel.
I would still like one though!

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#3471 - 13/03/10 04:27 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Walter]
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Walter,
screwed barrel.....then the barrel is screwed and that's it! Not tighten with screws locking? perhaps I misreading the meaning....



I would still like one though!......?????? Explain, I do not understand this sentence ......excuse me


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#3476 - 16/03/10 03:27 AM Re: Latest offering from G&E [Re: Massimo - Max]
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I meant that even if the barrel is screwed on, rather than clamped (like a 2013), I would still like to own this new rifle, it is just a shame that I cannot afford it!

Anyway, what have you heard about a new Anschutz???

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