You're at targetshooting.co.nz - New Zealand Target Shooting Talk | Go to newzealandnz.co.nz - New Zealand's Information Network | Go to nz-equestrian.co.nz - New Zealand's Equestrian Network

Target Shooting Talk
Target Shooting TalkTarget Shooting TalkTarget Shooting TalkTarget Shooting TalkTarget Shooting Talk

Homepage : Results : Events : Photos (images, files) : Videos : Members (who's online) : Smallbore Clubs : Facebook : Twitter : Register

Shout Box

Who's Online
3 registered (Andrew, Massimo - Max, Siggy), 54 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Smallbore Office Cam

Office Cam
Check for New Image

My status

Newest Members
mr.jones, FrankD, AngusB, Gunboy, jkuna
496 Registered Users
Top Posters
Smallbore 996
Wheelz 967
Massimo - Max 785
Grumpy 755
Environs 699
Bullwacka 501
Phil Bell 293
Fullboar 234
Tenpointnine 205
Martin C 183
Graeme Simpson 128
Crazy422s 100
WarrenP 97
TenOne 70
Sonicjoe 69
Top Posters (30 Days)
Massimo - Max 25
Wheelz 23
Martin C 9
FrankD 8
Fullboar 7
jkuna 7
Sonicjoe 5
Grumpy 4
hindlegs 4
CarvalhoPT 3
WarrenP 3
Tenring 3
Andrew 3
Tim Slater 3
in-it-not-at-it 2
Featured Member
Registered: 05/07/09
Posts: 205
February
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Forum Stats
497 Members
28 Forums
1285 Topics
7665 Posts

Max Online: 191 @ 24/08/10 07:45 PM
Piwik Website Analytics

Piwik Website Analytics

Username: targetshooting
Password: targetshooting

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#442 - 04/07/09 01:47 PM Access to ranges
Environs Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 20/06/09
Posts: 699
Loc: Cambridge
Hi Guys. Just wondering for those who dont have the luxury of your own private training facility cool, do you have access (a key) to your local range to train between club nites? I would love to be able to go down on a Fri Nite Or Sat morning by myself and pop off a couple of targets, tinker with position, stop and make changes to rifle settings. Club nites are taken up with coaching newbies and I'm lucky to get 1, 2 tops targets done, & after a busy nite it is harder to get in the zone. Environs
_________________________
Environs: "ACCURACY FOR A GIVEN SHOOTER IS LARGELY A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR MIND WILL ALLOW THE REST OF THEIR BODY TO DO."

Top
Ads by Google
#443 - 04/07/09 02:03 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Wheelz Offline
Old Hand
****

Registered: 24/07/09
Posts: 967
Loc: Wanganui, New Zealand (Westmer...
Man, I'm with you on that one.
Coaching noobs is great, but as you say club night becomes very compact and you have little time to experiment.
eg. if you wanted to bench your rifle with various ammo it's going to suck up at least an hour.
I'm going to make some enquiries at my club. I'm guessing there would need to be an official range officer present (unless you are one)
Thanks for raising that.

Top
#444 - 04/07/09 02:09 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Wheelz]
Environs Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 20/06/09
Posts: 699
Loc: Cambridge
How do you qualify as offical range officer? We had a guy last year who was ex army trained range officer. Does TSNZ run courses?
I dont see need for range officer, as licanced shooter I could go out to farm and blaze away on my own unsuppervised. A range is a much safer enviroment. Environs
_________________________
Environs: "ACCURACY FOR A GIVEN SHOOTER IS LARGELY A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR MIND WILL ALLOW THE REST OF THEIR BODY TO DO."

Top
#445 - 04/07/09 02:17 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Wheelz Offline
Old Hand
****

Registered: 24/07/09
Posts: 967
Loc: Wanganui, New Zealand (Westmer...
Originally Posted By: Environs
How do you qualify as offical range officer? We had a guy last year who was ex army trained range officer. Does TSNZ run courses?
I dont see need for range officer, as licanced shooter I could go out to farm and blaze away on my own unsuppervised. A range is a much safer enviroment. Environs

That may be true but remember you are in a club facility and they will be responsible for whatever happens there. Any accident (even falling down the stairs and breaking your leg) will require an OSH investigation of the premises/facility.
I believe (may be wrong) that you can be trained by an existing range officer and made familiar with all protocols to do with both safety and competition rules.
Someone correct me please if I'm wrong.
Just that I saw in our club minutes that there was a call for more range officers to be trained and I've put my hand up. Just waiting to be followed up on that.

Top
#446 - 04/07/09 02:40 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Wheelz]
Environs Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 20/06/09
Posts: 699
Loc: Cambridge
Point taken. Just seems such an under-utilisation of resource. I have desire and time to train in my choosen sport but can only participate when they are open. Environs
_________________________
Environs: "ACCURACY FOR A GIVEN SHOOTER IS LARGELY A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR MIND WILL ALLOW THE REST OF THEIR BODY TO DO."

Top
#447 - 04/07/09 02:46 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Wheelz Offline
Old Hand
****

Registered: 24/07/09
Posts: 967
Loc: Wanganui, New Zealand (Westmer...
Yeah, check with your club.
I can't help but think we're not the only ones feeling like this.

Top
#448 - 04/07/09 04:16 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Wheelz]
Grumpy Offline
Old Hand
*****

Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 755
Loc: Renwick, RSA Club, Wairau O/D ...
Re Osh, they only have durestiction where there is hire or reward involved, however its always better to be safe than sorry.
Don't recall any RO courses being available thru TSNZ but I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the question.
We got it good here, so long as the range isnt being used for anything else then we ok to use it for private practice, a number of our senior members have keys and code to alarm and if we don't have that, its just a matter of asking. Sometimes its good to train with someone else as they can take a look at what your doin and offer some help. I guess it depends on you local rules
_________________________
Thinks "Nothing But Dots!"
Shoot the little buggers.

Top
#538 - 08/07/09 01:20 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Grumpy]
Craygee Offline
Newcomer

Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 22
Loc: wellington
TSNZ does not have currently a formal RO course.

I am currently working in conjunction with some others (NZSF Judges plus some others) on RO training for Rifle, This is the first stage in training our officials to international level and gain ISSF Judges license.

Next stage for those interested is an ISSF course to be held in Wellington in Nov - further details via TSNZ

Also The reason for RO to have a valid firearms license is the NZ Firearms regs require "non license holders" to be supervised
If all shooters on the range have a license then this doesn't matter


Craig O'Brien
ISSF judge NZL

Top
#540 - 08/07/09 02:58 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Craygee]
Bullwacka Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 501
Loc: North Canterbury
Feel sorry for you environs, we have access to our range whenever we want go and practice.
Looks like small clubs arn't so bad after all.
_________________________
I love animals. Preferably fried or roasted.

Top
#544 - 08/07/09 05:07 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Bullwacka]
Environs Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 20/06/09
Posts: 699
Loc: Cambridge
So Gordan you can shoot by yourself unsupervised? confused


Edited by Environs (08/07/09 05:07 PM)
_________________________
Environs: "ACCURACY FOR A GIVEN SHOOTER IS LARGELY A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR MIND WILL ALLOW THE REST OF THEIR BODY TO DO."

Top
#545 - 08/07/09 05:23 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Bullwacka Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 07/06/09
Posts: 501
Loc: North Canterbury
Yea, just wander down and go for it. You can't shoot any match targets. Just practice.
Our range is part of an engineering workshop, so can't shoot during the day, but any night is fine.
i usually ring around & 2 or 3 of us go, more interesting with others, plus you can help each other.
_________________________
I love animals. Preferably fried or roasted.

Top
#1103 - 07/08/09 10:54 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Shoota Offline
Apprentice
*****

Registered: 13/06/09
Posts: 64
Loc: Wairarapa.
Senior members at our club have a key and can use the range when they want as long as you have someone with you..just in case you trip over ya feet and fall flat on ya face hehe..
Just spent most of Sunday afternoon shooting, trying out sight adjustment for the English targets I will have to shoot at the N/S match, and BSA in Levin,in a couple of weeks time..we have a bench rest, so that's good if you need it.

Top
#3416 - 04/03/10 11:26 AM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Shoota]
Environs Offline
Addict
****

Registered: 20/06/09
Posts: 699
Loc: Cambridge
Hi Folks bringing this to the surface again as we have our AGM next week and would like to address some of these issues.

How many of you (in NZ) have access to range to practice without supervision of a range officer?

How many can only shoot on club night or when RO present?

Craygee Has there been advancement on the RO training thru TSNZ or any other organisation?

Thanks you feed back welcomed.


Edited by Environs (04/03/10 11:28 AM)
_________________________
Environs: "ACCURACY FOR A GIVEN SHOOTER IS LARGELY A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR MIND WILL ALLOW THE REST OF THEIR BODY TO DO."

Top
#3418 - 04/03/10 02:21 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Environs]
Ian Offline
Apprentice
*****

Registered: 17/07/09
Posts: 65
Loc: New Plymouth
HI all,
back home and catching up on the goss...

Sounds like a poll is needed is it exists somewhere already.
Couldn't find any, just a list of posts about them.

We have access whenever I've asked.
For all the reasons mentioned above plus the smell of powder. smile
A Firearms license holder and away.

ian

Top
#3427 - 05/03/10 09:08 PM Re: Access to ranges [Re: Ian]
RNY Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 20/08/09
Posts: 61
Loc: Invercargill New Zealand
Here in the deep south, any of our members who require to, can apply to the Association for a key. Great for training and as we have two test rigs, one for barrel and action only, the other for complete rifle, the time that using these requires does not interfere with club nights when you can go to the range at your convenience. (License holders only of course.)
_________________________
I know what I know, I don't know what I don't know.

Top



Social Networking
Follow us on TiwtterFacebook Page
Facebook Video Welcome

Web Adverts

New Zealand Internet Dating

NZ Electronics - Computer and Peripherals Supplies - Distributors of Technology Products

Lowey Products

SHB Smallbore Rifle Association Site

Shooting Stuff

(Views)Popular Topics
Headspace 107272
Eley Match (black) Bad Ammo Batches 91364
How to handle Miss Fires? 68147
The Perfect RIfle... 44326
Anschutz Match 54 on TradeMe 39598
Tuner....???? 39414
Jacket - Help me decide. 36541
Shooting Gloves 32440
My 1st Tip 24921
New smallbore rifle from Grunig & Elmiger 21890
Active Topics & Posts
DRAFT NEW RULES 2013 ISSF
by Tenpointnine
Yesterday at 10:20 PM
Clubs
by Phil Bell
Yesterday at 07:38 PM
Hello from Croatia !
by Massimo - Max
06/02/12 05:07 AM
Mouche
by Massimo - Max
05/02/12 08:22 PM
choosing shooting glove for 10m air rifle
by hindlegs
05/02/12 09:19 AM
Mec buttplate for sale
by Fullboar
04/02/12 04:34 PM
Photo Gallery
Anschutz 1413 For Sale + Accessories
Canterbury Champs pics
Two Racers
Massimo - Max's Podium
North Island Champs 2011
Old and New Target
Teams of Ten 2011
 Diga del Cingino Dam, Italy

Homepage : Results : Events : Photos (images, files) : Videos : Members (who's online) : Smallbore Clubs : Facebook : Twitter : Register

New Zealand's Information Network - Scanning the Nation for your Information