Hi Grumpy,
Eley does not make ugly figures, a batch of shit can happen .... but to tell the truth I never had problems. I use Tenex and my friends who use Tenex for bench-rest assured their quality.
Eley Match are cheaper, for use in training ...and maybe not good for all barrels.

Ciao

Max
Don't think there was any problem with the actual ammo, just that they had mixed batches in the same brick of 500 rounds so that there was at least 50 rounds that were entirely different to the rest which is not what you would expect or want for cosistant shooting.
Incidentally, I have not found any Match that shot really bad, just that some batches/speeds shot better than others with my current setup of the time. Even the new team (downgraded Match?) shot OK for - training anyway.

I haven't made any comment on this thread as I do not think I have ever had any major problems with Eley and have had fairly consistent results(for my level of shooting)

However would not be happy with different speeds in 500 lots, if you hadn't noticed and mixed speeds you could have had a sudden change of zero in the middle of a card.Shooter wouldn't have had clue why they got a change of point of impact.

Has anyone tries sorting by bullet diameter? A fellow shooter and I were checking the sizes after someone mentioned it and what we found was startling to say the least. Eley Match EPS (Black Box) varies from .220 al the way up to .225, this can not be good for accuracy. At first we thought it was the lube but after removing all the lube with hot water and a clean towel the sizes were still varied from .001 to .004 out of the same box. Has any of you guys thought of this and or found a solution, if so please post I am curious to see what your findings are. Thanks, Tony "T" Gilmore USBR National Web Master/NASA USBR M.D.

Ciao Tony,
welcome.
I never measured cartridges.
Have you measured the diameter of Eley Tenex?
I am a shooter in prone position and interested in having this info.
I do not know how to measure the diameter of a bullet ...... only with a gauge of accuracy? and if the bullet has a circumference slightly irregular oval ...?
Some shooter measures the circumference of the bullet.
If I'm not mistaken the bench-rest shooters in particular also measure the thickness of the rim, also measure the total length of each cartridge and I have heard that some weigh them one by one ..... splitting the batch into small homogeneous batch.
I recently purchased by a sniper a small residue of a batch selected for thick rim and I have seen a greater constancy of the rifle recoil and increased accuracy impact, I do not know if the selection or fortunately

thank You
ciao

Interesting to read about the problems you are having with mis-shapen bullet noses on Eley tenx. As I have got the same problem. I am having to sort out the good from the bad at a ratio of 25% "damaged" I have shot some of the 25% at 100 yards and there is a negative effect.Out of interest what was the batch numbers for the "damaged" Eley that you all had. mine is 1009-02248 1059

Friend Carton-bull,
I usually use the Tenex for competitions and I've never found a defect in bullet nose.
Indeed in recent years I seem to have improved the quality of Tenex (Red), the bullet seems crimped well and worked well the collar, the bullet with less protection wax,
and I have not found bullet misaligned or faulty.
A few days my club will be supplied with Eley Match (Black) and I want to examine to see if have defects.
Perhaps some of 2009 batch of ammunition was defective ( like your 1009-02248-1059).... (1009 ..09 is year of production...02248 batch ....1059 average speed ), but I think Eley has controlled production lines, following recommendations made by New Zealand.

Saluti

I have had 2 boxes of match with missing rounds.
I presumed that the factory quality control had identified them as 8's and removed them.
alas the next box had 2 8's in it.
what should I do?

Haha! I love it.

I suggest you give those 2 8's back to them in exchange for 10.1's

Tell them you paid for 10.1's but they put a couple of 8's in that box by mistake.

All the above emails are very interesting, I used to rim thickness all my ammo and split into 3 lots, bench testing before checking ammo and them after with improved consistency in groups being noticable,I have rim tested a number of batches of Black EPS and have been very impressed with the manufacturing tollorences. I have 350 rounds of team left of 1000 and wish i had more, much more!! I haven't had a batch that good since I had tennex batch WP509 and thats a long time ago!!!

a friend of mine uses the black Match and shoot better with Tenex! Perhaps his barrel digest of all ....
We tried to order MATCH but this year we can not have ..... to be used for training

Hi Fullboar,
when you are getting a good batch marked speed (is the third batch number appearing on the 1057 ... ... 1061 .. 1070) and subsequent years trying to buy with that speed.....
Remember that the lower the speed and more there is less dispersion.......ammunition fast let them shoot the others! The Tenex and Match are the best ammunition on the market...who has measured in any way found minimal differences....One of our shooters (in 1913) is difficult to load the gun with Lapua ... + have a container with a diameter wider than seems to limit the extent CIP...
Thing happens to me with RWS ... I find them too fast and too quickly unload power ..... while Eley are progressive as filler launch.

I bought 2 bricks of Elly Match (black) last month I have shot about 450 rounds of it and I have found an average of 2 per box are light loaded. I have wrote Elly to ask if there was a batch problem I have not received an answer yet. I have used elly over the years and have not had this problem before. May have to switch to another batch soon and see if the problem goes away.

Hi Charlie,
I'd be interested to know what year of manufacture this ammo is???
If you don't know where to find it, its the first 4 digits on the batch code, the last 2 numbers are the year of manufacture. eg 1008 = manufactured in 2008.

Lets hope all the bad ammo went to the USA this time instead of "Down-under" to us. Lol...

Thanks

Yesss Bullwacka...

I've already said in this forum .... on the box of Eley Tenex and Match there are 3 sets of numbers ....
before me has a box
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1010 02039
1059
birmingham cip approved
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1010 the first top left is the year packaging this is the year 2010 ( if there is written 1008 year means 2008)

02039 the second upper right is the block that identifies the batch

1059 lower left identifies the average speed of the batch

I do not know exactly what rate of production, are ... I've seen from 1055 to 1075 ft / second and I used 1059/1061/1063/1064
production speed is due to the resulting variables given by (if I remember correctly) 1000 different parameters temperature, humidity, dust particle size, bullet weight according to the league lead, primers, crimping the bullet ...etc. etc..
when producing a batch is divided into 4 sections and make a random selection and see the average speed......I am not aware that other manufacturers do the same ammunition control

the first two numbers of the second set of numbers identifies the machine it is produced on, there are now 6 machines so 03 is machine 3 etc

Thanks Fullboar....yes also identify the equipment production.

http://www.eley.co.uk/media/14768/ammunition%20label.gif

here this is the exact detail

Thanks for that Max a good explanation.

Grumpy,
is a pleasure that everyone has the right information.
Importers, knowing that most shooters believe that three numbers are only serial numbers, selling lots of remnants of previous years.
The fact last year we bought Tenex of 2005 (1005) not aware that this number indicates the year. But now we care more.

The fact remains that the main peculiarity of Eley Tenex and Match is that Batches are reported for average speed

I do not remember for blue box ( Team - flat nose )......
The green box ( Sport )... not


Cheers